1.6t vs 1.4t

All Vauxhall Astra K related discussions
880PEL
Posts: 151
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:16 am
Astra Model: OPC-line 1,6T Automatic

Re: 1.6t vs 1.4t

Post by 880PEL » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:59 pm

Actually the part that I love about the 1.6T is cruising 80km/h at 1500rpm and accelerating after speed limit. It does not even usually downshift and starts pulling like a diesel does.

LSPI is not known issue for 1.6 SIDI. This engine has been around for 7 years or so.

Scotty_b
Posts: 1291
Joined: Tue May 30, 2017 9:11 pm
Astra Model: 1.4T 150 Sri
Astra Options: Flux Capacitor
Astra Colour: Summit White

Re: 1.6t vs 1.4t

Post by Scotty_b » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:40 pm

Wished they kept it in the 2020 model, then I would simple upgrade next year. 🙁

No other hatch is grabbing my attention for the 2nd hand value.

greengreg
Posts: 34
Joined: Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:20 am
Astra Model: 1.4T SRI
Astra Options: Adv park assist/AGR/ Rear camera/blindspot alert
Astra Colour: Power Red

Re: 1.6t vs 1.4t

Post by greengreg » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:34 pm

Had my 1.4T for just over a year now and had no problems (touch wood) engine pulls fine, I have done 15000 miles in that time. Pompeydave is right about the exhaust I hated the no tailpipe look so fitted one on to the backbox. I tried a 1.0T & 1.4 non turbo both seemed under powered to me, but not many 1.6T around when I was looking so can't compare them I am happy with the 1.4T and still get a kick out of it when I let it park itself.
Regards
Greg :D

nsanderson
Posts: 573
Joined: Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:30 am
Astra Model: 1.6T SRi 200 Nav
Astra Options: AGR seat, winter pack,parking sensors, spare wheel
Astra Colour: Power Red

Re: 1.6t vs 1.4t

Post by nsanderson » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:16 am

Elite75 wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:25 pm
The 1.4T would probably suit most people more, nippy enough with better fuel economy and cheaper insurance.
The 1.4T SRi is in group 17E and the 1.6T is in 19E. Made no difference in my annual premium to move from the 1.4T to the 1.6T and, thanks to the lazy low down slug of torque that cuts in from about 1500 revs, my 1.6T is doing as many MPG as the 1.4T did.

I think the thing is because they are much rarer, the insurance companies don't view them as a high risk as they don't get involved in as many accidents. I had the same experience going from a 1.9CDTi Sport Hatch to a 1.6T Ecotec Sport Hatch about 10 years ago. The diesel was group 24 and the Turbo was 32 but the 1.6T was cheaper to insure than the diesel because they weren't in as many accidents.
1.6T (200) SRi Nav - Power Red, AGR seat, winter pack, parking sensors, spare wheel,

Finston Pickle
Posts: 664
Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:58 pm
Astra Model: 1.6 Petrol Turbo SRI Nav Sports tourer
Astra Options: AGR seats;Wntr Pk;Sp Whl;S/Rf;Tints;CD plyr;P/Sens
Astra Colour: Flip Chip Silver

Re: 1.6t vs 1.4t

Post by Finston Pickle » Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:28 pm

You must have seen this, I guess:

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=7130
1.6 SIDI Petrol Turbo SRI Nav
AGR seats; Winter Pack; Spare Wheel; Sun Roof; Tinted Rear Windows; CD player; Parking Sensors

Redman
Posts: 1165
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:16 pm
Astra Model: Astra elite nav 150
Astra Colour: red

Re: 1.6t vs 1.4t

Post by Redman » Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:51 pm

astra2016 wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:37 pm
I feel the need to provide balance again, sorry it's late. I have had 2 1.4ts and zero problem never encountered lspi. Current car is near on 20000 miles. It's not done many miles so far however a change in circumstances means it is about to, I will not be changing it.
Plenty of power and economical if you choose to drive it that way. As with any second hand car if there's something you don't like walk away, there are loads of them out there.
I guess you just have to prioritize what is important to you.
For me I wanted the elite spec, as it had more comfortable seats, and more toys which make it more comfortable, most elites just happen to be 1.4t in petrol form.
I second that opinion having owned two 1.4t elite navs. No issues thus far, great car for the money. No lspi after new oil and software update on my first 16 plate. Never experienced any lspi in 18 months on my present 19 plate and loads of power, for me anyway.

Markot1989
Posts: 105
Joined: Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:49 pm
Astra Model: 1.6t 200 SRI
Astra Colour: Black

Re: 1.6t vs 1.4t

Post by Markot1989 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:40 pm

nsanderson wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:16 am
Elite75 wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:25 pm
The 1.4T would probably suit most people more, nippy enough with better fuel economy and cheaper insurance.
The 1.4T SRi is in group 17E and the 1.6T is in 19E. Made no difference in my annual premium to move from the 1.4T to the 1.6T and, thanks to the lazy low down slug of torque that cuts in from about 1500 revs, my 1.6T is doing as many MPG as the 1.4T did.

I think the thing is because they are much rarer, the insurance companies don't view them as a high risk as they don't get involved in as many accidents. I had the same experience going from a 1.9CDTi Sport Hatch to a 1.6T Ecotec Sport Hatch about 10 years ago. The diesel was group 24 and the Turbo was 32 but the 1.6T was cheaper to insure than the diesel because they weren't in as many accidents.
Can second that on the insurance side, it was far cheaper to insure that the 1.5T Clubman we had previously. Also cheaper by over £100 to insure than my wife's 20plate Swift (non sport :cry: ).

Absolutely love the way the 1.6 drives, if you want to potter about or go distance it will happily oblige and return decent fuel figures. Will happily sit on the motorway with plenty of flex in 6th meaning you don't need to shift down to keep up with the traffic. Hit the sport button and build the revs a little and it transforms into a whole different beast. Bin the factory Bridgestones and fire on a set of Michelin pilot sport 4S's and your laughing. The factory Bridgestones are hopeless and prone to torque steering and aquaplaning, fwiw I had exactly the same issue with the run flat Bridgestones BMW/MINI fit so you may be aware of this on the 118i already.

Only other change I would make it replacing the factory headlight bulbs for Osram night breakers / Philips Racing vision as they are like glowworms.
We've had no issues since buying in August 2019 so far, the only slight niggle was 2 of the headlight caps came loose and fell off.

nsanderson
Posts: 573
Joined: Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:30 am
Astra Model: 1.6T SRi 200 Nav
Astra Options: AGR seat, winter pack,parking sensors, spare wheel
Astra Colour: Power Red

Re: 1.6t vs 1.4t

Post by nsanderson » Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:53 am

Have to agree on the tyre choice! The Bridgestones were simply awful and were clearly some cheap, nasty tyres that the car was not engineered with (Michelin, Continental).

i replaced my stock ones with a set of Michelin CrossClimate+ tyres and the grip, noise levels and ride comfort were improved drastically. The Astra K does seem to like Michelins!
1.6T (200) SRi Nav - Power Red, AGR seat, winter pack, parking sensors, spare wheel,

Post Reply